Tricky DCC Conversions

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Just a thought after reading David Frew's comments on another thread....what are (have been) the trickiest or most difficult DCC installations you've done?

For starters here arwe a few I've managed.....

Roco BBII 0-4-4-0
BraWa KoefII (Actuakky quite easy...there's plenty of room in the cab- just figuring out now if I can get a Loksound Micro and speaker in there!)
Trix BR98 (Pfalz)
Piko BR82 - the early version without a NEM socket
Roco E60
Roco BR58
Fleischmann BR55
Fleischmann BR78
Fleischmann VT98
Kato ESA515
Lima V36 - Also SB/Faulhaber conversion
Hobbytrain V65
Roco E91

Maybe now I should have a look at the Roco Glaskasten -I fancy trying out yhe Mayerhofer LED lanterns as well.

None of the above had NEM sockets...some may now be available with them!

Member Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 453

Andrew
That's a good selection. The Lima V36 was quite interesting as the ballast weight takes up all the free space. I guess remotoring it created some more space?

I've done over 100 dcc installs now, the majority without NEM sockets.

These include some interesting and challenging ones:
PMT VT35 with sound
VT137 with sound
Roco TEE with enhanced sound chamber to produce really good full sound (too good compared with some of the other ready to run sound offerings!)
DJH BR59 with sound
DJH Br98
DJH Bavarian BB mallet
Several Fulgurex, M+F and Weinert models
and lots of others.

Probably most rewarding was remotoring and decoder fitting to two rivarossi BR96 locos which turned a "dog" into a really smooth runner.

I still have two Trix Glaskastens sitting here waiting for decoders.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:50 am

Andrew,

I would really like to know how you did the Fleischmann Br55. Did you use Fleischmanns isolated backplates?

Erkut Baykal

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Hi Erkut; no I didn't.... just had a go at the standard PCB with a slitting disk to isolate one of the motor brushes from the chassis. If you're not confident foing this, Fleischmann can provide a replacement.

Guest

David, tes, remotoring eith a Faulhaber gave just enough room alongside the motor to install a Lenz LE030... I actually filed the PCB down by approx 0.2 mm to get it to fit! subsequently it has run flawlessly!

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It is a shame, that rather than supplying a list, a few photos showing the solutions may have been infinitely more useful to the forum Wink

After Warley, I will be posting some images of David's conversions which show that Fleischmann pancakes can be converted without the replacement of components and a tricky conversion of a small Lima diesel.

Tim

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:23 pm

I'd give my kingdom for anyone who could show me how to convert:

Fleischmann Br55, 1043 and a roco Br 57 in photo's Crying or Very sad

Erkut Baykal

Member Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 453

Well, just send the first bit of your Kingdom over here please.

Photolog for Roco BR57: http://www.hp-pfeiffer.de/digi_umbau1/dcc/br57_roco/br57_roco.html

David

Member Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 453

and for a Fleischmann Br55:

http://home.arcor.de/enby/decodereinbau_br55.htm

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:21 pm

Thanks David,

I know Hp-pfeiffer's site. Even just looking at the pictures scares me.
I am afraid the Br55 conversion is from a new model of Fleischmann, mine has the pancake motor.

Eventually I will sit down one day and try to convert them...till that day.

Erkut Baykal

Administrator Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Posts: 1749

Quote:

I am afraid the Br55 conversion is from a new model of Fleischmann, mine has the pancake motor

A slight mistake has crept in, even the modern BR55 from Fleischmann has a pancake motor AFAIR, only the BR56 has the can. The link provided by David is the 1:160 model not the 1:87, pleaee look carefully at the motor and couplings.

Member Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 453

Yes Tim, you are right!

I'll do a bit more searching. The pancake motors are generally straightforward provided you fit the newer face plate, but again well worth remotoring to Faulhaber at the same time and that will certainly create loads of space for a decoder.

Member Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 45 Location: Beverly,MA

Hi all,
I am in the process of converting the Fl BR55(old ring motor)
See:

http://www.wiringfordcc.com/euroloco.htm

Dr D

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:32 am

Kevin,

I have done a step by step conversion of the FLM Br 55, even with sound and a flickering firebox. If it may help here is the link:

http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6829&st=0&start=0

Erkut

Member Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 45 Location: Beverly,MA

Hi Erkut,all,

Erkut Baykal wrote:

Kevin,

I have done a step by step conversion of the FLM Br 55, even with sound and a flickering firebox. If it may help here is the link:

http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6829&st=0&start=0Erkut

Thank you! Looks great! Smile

I will read it when I get home tonight,because I got to work to pay for this stuff! Wink

Dr D

(I have taken some photos if anyone is interested(?))

Member Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 45 Location: Beverly,MA

Hi all,
A US source for the LED's and resistors?

Thanks for any help,Dr D

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Tony's Trains?

BTW why only US source, I get my bits from wherever.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:34 pm

Kevin:

Digikey is one of the best online sources for electronics parts on this side of the pond. They have just about everything.

Tim, I think he's worried about ridiculous postage charges for crossing the Atlantic, which I can confirm is a real concern.

Jurgen

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Jurgen,

If you think that the Transatlantic charges are ridiculous, you should see what German sellers think is normal.

Member Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 45 Location: Beverly,MA

Hi all,

Jurgen Kleylein wrote:

Kevin:
Digikey is one of the best online sources for electronics parts on this side of the pond. They have just about everything.
Tim, I think he's worried about ridiculous postage charges for crossing the Atlantic, which I can confirm is a real concern.Jurgen

Thanks Jurgen.Your right,if I buy anything,I don't like the shipping charges to be the same price as a item(s). Rolling Eyes

Dr D

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:06 pm

Kevin,

Try Radio Shack.

Boyce

Member Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 45 Location: Beverly,MA

Hi Boyce,all,

Boyce Burdick wrote:

Kevin,

Try Radio Shack.Boyce

Yeah,I did,it was once a great place for bits and DIY projects,... Crying or Very sad

Smallest they had was a 3mm,....no metal resistors,...the search goes on!

Thanks,Dr Dirt

Member Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 97

Try www.jameco.com