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Andrew Linehan- 11-06-2007
DC conversion to DCC ?
Hi all I have a chance of buying a Fleischmann BR 41 (FL 4130) which is DC. Could this be converted easily to DCC. With the motor in the tender would there be sufficient room to accept a decoder? If not where would it go? I am no expert on DCC systems and really it's about time I start for obvious reasons. Any advice would be appreciated. thanks to all After posting this I have looked at the link supplied by Tim Hale re posting 'Digital Conversions of Bavarian Analogue Locos' and discovered that what I need to know is in there. Many thanks Tim. Apologies if I have wasted anyone's time. - Andrew

Steph Dale- 11-06-2007

Andrew, No bother at all. Just in case you're still wondering I've put the decoder in my BR41 in the firebox with wires fed through from the tender; much as Fleischmann now do. The trickiest job is feeding the wires through the close coupling unit; other than that it's fairly straightforward. And don't forget to remove the suppression capacitor from across the motor contacts (if one is fitted). Steph

Erkut Baykal- 11-07-2007

Hi Andrew and Steph, I also have a DRG 41 with wagner smoke deflectors from Fleischmann and am abt to fit a decoder to it. Is yours with a 6 pole or 8 pole socket ready? Most Fleischmann loco's are with 6 poles,acc to NEM 651. which is interesting cause 6poles are for N scale. Or did you just hardwire the decoder? Thanks E.Baykal

Steph Dale- 11-07-2007

Erkut, I've had to hard-wire one, pulling the wires through from the tender. For the other(s) and BR22s (fitted with 6-pin sockets) I've used Zimo MX62N (6-pin direct connection) decoders. Their power rating is enough to cope with the Fleischmann tender drives and I've had no problems with them at all. If you were worried about power rating then using MX63F or MX64F (HO-scale decoders with leads terminated in a 6-pin plug) should do the trick, though they're relatively difficult to get hold of as there aren't many HO scale models fitted with 6-pin plugs. The new MX620N would work just as well as the MX62N and these work well with all 'DCC ready' Fleischmann locos - though they take a little bit of programming to get the best performance out of any model fitted with the old Fleischmann ringfield ('Pancake') motor. Under those circumstances the performance will be a lot, lot better than most (any?) other decoder. Steph Steph

Erkut Baykal- 11-07-2007

Hi Steph, Fleischmanns seem to be a problem to me when converting. I must admit I am no electrical genius and hardwiring, specially the old Fleischmanns, where there is a hectic isolation involved, actually scares me. I can't get rid of the loco's cause it took me ages to collect them. All TCDD equivalents.Besides there isn't a modelrailshop around the corner here in Turkey to pop in and have them converted. I have the Fleischmann: Br 03 (4102) Br 260 shunter (4226) Br 41 (4132) all with 6 pole sockets of what its worth! Br 55 (4152) 1043 Concar ( 4367) all to be hardwired What really bothers me is this NEM 651 stuff with Fleischmann HO loco's. I am very new to DCC and was brought up knowing that this is for N scale with max current value of 0,5 amps. Why Fleischmann incorporates these to their HO loco's I really do not know, probably to sell their own twin tecknik decoders rather than anybody elses is my wildest guess. I have tested the Lokpilot mini 52681 ( the direct plug without harness) with the Br03 and Br260 . The Br03 seems Ok however the shunter with the old pancake motor was a hopeless case. So the Zimo's that you mention might do the trick. Worth a try. Cheers Baykal

Steph Dale- 11-08-2007

Erkut, If it'll help there are some more in-depth experiences of the Zimo decoders on my website at http://www.euram-online.co.uk/dcc/decoders/zimomxseries.htm Steph

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